Liberty & Power: Group Blog
Roderick T. Long
[cross-posted at Austro-Athenian Empire]
In a post about a month ago, I asked why (many of) Ron Pauls supporters regard opposition to Paul on the basis of Pauls views on, e.g., abortion and immigration as misguided, yet would not regard opposition to a hypothetical Randy Barnett candidacy on the basis of Barnetts views on, e.g. federalism and war as misguided.
My friend Walter Block (whose views on abortion and immigration are, incidentally, closer to mine than to Pauls) has recently offered an answer to my question. I quote from his answer, interspersing my comments:
First, as stated above, immigration and abortion are unsettled issues amongst libertarians.
True, but so are federalism and war. In any case, why does it matter whether these issues are settled or not? It matters what the correct libertarian position on some issue is; it also matters how important deviations from that position are. But neither of those considerations correlates particularly closely with which issues have achieved a consensus among libertarians and which ones havent.
We have to be able to tolerate some degree of uncertainty, of ambiguity, in our perspective.
Im not sure what that means.
I defy Roderick Long or anyone else for that matter to cite acknowledged leaders of our intellectual movement, such as Rothbard, Hoppe and Kinsella, who favor the U.S. role in the Iraq war.
Well, acknowledged by whom? Randy Barnett would ordinarily, I think, be considered one of the intellectual leaders of the libertarian movement. Evidently Walter does not so acknowledge him. But in any case, what does it matter whether a position is or is not held by some acknowledged leader of the movement? That seems like an argument from authority (or maybe an argument from absence-of-authority). There was a time when the overwhelming majority of libertarian intellectual leaders rejected anarchism, embraced intellectual property rights, etc. Which proves what?
Second, the issue of what is a threat, what is coercion, is very central to libertarianism, and relatively straightforward. According to that old joke, if you cant tell the difference between a living room and a bathroom, then dont come to my house. If you cant tell the difference between aggression and defense, then dont get into political economy.
But all disputes over the interpretation and/or application of libertarian principles turn on telling the difference between aggression and defense. In libertarian disputes over abortion and immigration, no less than in libertarian disputes over foreign policy, each side accuses the other of confusing aggression and defense.
Randy Barnett fails this test dismally, while Ron Paul passes with flying colors. Indeed, to place the two of them in the same sentence in this regard is highly problematic. What can we say about anyone who seriously maintains that the U.S. invasion is justified on grounds of defense against attack from Iraqis? At the very least, it cannot be seriously maintained that they are libertarians at all in any meaningful sense.
I agree that in the case of the war, Randy (IMHO) confuses aggression with defense just as I think that in the case of abortion and immigration, Paul (again IMHO) confuses aggression with defense. But given that they both draw the distinction correctly in the vast majority of cases, I have no problem saying that they are both libertarians. (Which by itself, I should add, doesnt settle the question of whether eithers candidacy would be worthy of support. How much of a deviation makes a candidate unworthy of support and how much of a deviation makes a candidate no longer count as a libertarian seem to me different questions.)
In sharp contrast, abortion and immigration are highly complex issues, as the voluminous scholarly literature on them eloquently attests.
I agree that abortion and immigration are complex issues, though I think foreign policy is too. (And its not as though there isnt a voluminous scholarly literature on the justice of war as well.) But I cant see how the complexity of an issue matters to this debate. Is Walter assuming that how important, how seriously bad, a deviation from correct libertarian principle is, is inversely correlated with how complex the argument for its being a deviation is? I dont see why that should be so.
Nor are they at all at the very core of our libertarian philosophy; rather, they are implications of it.
Here Walter seems to slide from opposition to aggressions being central to libertarianism, to wars counting as aggression being central to libertarianism. But why wouldnt it be just as justifiable (or just as unjustifiable) to slide from opposition to aggressions being central to libertarianism, to restrictions on abortion or immigration counting as aggression being central to libertarianism? Whats the difference?
Elsewhere in his article Walter elaborates on his remark on libertarian authorities:
[W]hen expert libertarian philosophers disagree with each other, it is a bit much to declare either side anti- or non-libertarian. It is therefore highly improper to castigate Dr. Paul for taking a position on immigration and abortion incompatible with libertarianism ....
Perhaps an analogy may be of use in this context. When physicists are not of one mind on a problem (is matter a wave or a particle) it is altogether too harsh to castigate an engineer from taking either side.
Of course, Walters use of this argument depends on a choice of which people will be regarded as authorities. Walter himself is certainly willing to castigate people who agree with Randy about the war because he does not regard Randy as a libertarian expert. But isnt there a danger of circularity here? Randy, despite what are surely prima facie credentials for inclusion, is excluded from the ranks of libertarian experts because of his position on the war and deviation on that issue is grounds for expulsion from the ranks of libertarian experts because its not an area where libertarian experts disagree!
In any case, surely the relevant question is not whether Ron Paul (or Randy Barnett for that matter) is to be castigated for his deviations. Talk of castigation suggests that whats at issue is whether a given deviation is, as it were, epistemically innocent or epistemically blameworthy whether it was arrived at by culpable evasion or honest mistake. But again, it sounds to me as though Walter is assuming that how seriously bad a deviation is, must be reliably correlated with how intellectually culpable someone is for arriving at it; and thats far from obvious to me. After all, I think there are plenty of reasonable, intelligent, well-intentioned non-libertarians (benighted souls though they be); so I have no problem granting that there are likewise plenty of reasonable, intelligent, well-intentioned deviationist libertarians. The question is not whether Pauls deviations are grounds for castigating the poor guy (who Im happy to stipulate is as intellectually conscientious as a summer day in Reykjavik is long) but whether they are grounds for declining to vote for him and/or support his candidacy. (For what its worth, I dont think there are decisive reasons either for or against libertarian support for Ron Pauls candidacy per se, though there may well be decisive reasons for particular libertarians to support or to oppose it; Ill explain what I mean in a future post.)
In a comment on my earlier post, my friend David Gordon offers an argument similar (though not identical) to Walters, so Ill quote it here too:
Some positions, e.g., support for conscription, cant be defended as libertarian; someone who favors conscription can still count as a libertarian, though, if he holds a sufficient number of other libertarian views.
Thus far I think David may actually disagree with Walter, in that by Davids criterion here Randy would certainly have to count as a libertarian.
I think, though, that there are important issues, e.g., abortion and immigration, in which libertarian principles dont mandate a single position as the only permissible libertarian one. There may well be, on these issues, a single best interpretation of what libertarianism requires; but we cant say that anyone who adopts a different view is to that extent unlibertarian.
Thats the part where David seems to be taking a position similar to Walters. Im not sure, though, that I understand Davids distinction between a position that deviates from libertarian principle and a position that deviates from the single best interpretation of libertarian principle. If a position deviates from the single best interpretation of libertarian principle, why isnt that a way of deviating from libertarian principle?
Incidentally, I havent forgotten my promise to say more about the David Gordon / Charles Johnson debate. Coming soon!